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21-Nov-87 19:10:31-PST,28098;000000000001
Date: Sat 21 Nov 87 21:24:57-GMT
From: Jeff Shulman <SHULMAN@SDR>
Subject: Usenet Mac Digest V3 #94

Usenet Mac Digest     Saturday, November 21, 1987    Volume 3 : Issue 94

Today's Topics:
     annoying Finder/Macwrite bug (feature?)
     Re: Slow DeskTop-Updating with Finder-6.0 PROBLEM??
     Dreams of the Phoenix?
     Software emulation of PC
     Re: ESD causes degenerative brain disease in Mac IIs
     Lightspeed Modula-2?
     EtherTalk
     MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
     Idealiner info needed
     Re: Lightspeed Modula-2?
     Re: MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
     Re: Shareware fonts
     Multifinder floppy copying/swapping...
     Re: Mac II screen savers
     Memory test for Mac II?
     Re: MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
     OLD ROM's no longer supported
     Clip Art recommendations
     Looking for Avatar Corp. and MDPIC software for PICT-to-pic conversion
     2 problems with multifinder (2 messages)
     Re: Any experience with screen projecto
     GCC Personal Laser Printer?
     Mac programs that run under A/UX
     Re: FullWrite Update
     Cray - Finder
     Xpress bombs with new system!
     PhoneNET Users--I need your input!!!!

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From: [e-mail] (Paul Raymond McMullin)
Subject: annoying Finder/Macwrite bug (feature?)
Date: 10 Nov 87 18:42:12 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. APL Center, Laurel, MD

There are a few interactions on the Mac between the finder and
application programs that still grate on me:

(1) select several files belonging to one application (e.g. MacWrite),
and then choose "Print" from the "File" menu -- there's no way (I am
aware of) to predict the order that the files will be passed to MacWrite
for processing;

(2) as above, select several files for printing: MacWrite puts up the
standard dialog box to allow you to set the number of copies, percent
enlargement, ... the problem is that your specifications only get
applied to the first file processed (at least only the first file
produces multiple copies if you are trying for two copies of
everything...)

MacWrite 4.767 anyone?

-Paul McMullin [e-mail] ...{mimsy,decuac}!aplcen!prm
--
Paul R. McMullin


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From: [e-mail] (Larry Rosenstein)
Subject: Re: Slow DeskTop-Updating with Finder-6.0 PROBLEM??
Date: 10 Nov 87 22:43:50 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Group, Apple Computer

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Werner Uhrig) writes:
>PS: the Finder-6.0 comes configured to use 160k, by default, and I wonder if
>    increasing that might help in some circumstances.

I don't think so.  Finder 6.0 uses the Multifinder temporary memory
allocation services, which is why it can run effectively in 160K of
memory. These Multifinder calls allow an application to temporarily
allocate memory, which hasn't been assigned to any other application.

For example, if only the Finder is running on a 1Mb machine, there is
more than 512K of RAM that is unused.  An application can ask
Multifinder to allocate a handle for it out of this memory.

--
Larry Rosenstein

Object Specialist
Apple Computer

AppleLink: Rosenstein1
UUCP:  {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr
CSNET: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Frank Kolnick)
Subject: Dreams of the Phoenix?
Date: 10 Nov 87 19:51:34 GMT
Organization: Computer X (CANADA) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Does anyone know what's happened to Dreams of the Phoenix (Jacksonville,
Florida)?  I ordered Phoenix-3D in July.  In September, I received a
card saying that they were having technical problems but would ship by
the end of the month.  I just phoned their number (also on the card) and
got a recorded message saying the number had been disconnected.  Sigh.


--
Frank Kolnick,
UUCP: {allegra, linus, ihnp4}!utzoo!mnetor!frank
BELL: (416)-475-8980 ext. 311


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Software emulation of PC
Date: 7 Nov 87 06:11:18 GMT

Get this!  MacWeek (or was it Mac Today, or was it.... anyway) had a
little blurb on "Soft PC" the IBM PC emulation software that reportedly
is compatible down to the chip level.  "This is it!" I say to myself.  A
nice cheap solution to the IBM compatibility question, and it can even
be easily updated.  Then comes the kicker--it will run under A/UX!!!
Good grief!  Instead of paying $1500 for AST's 80286 board you pay $4000
or so for A/UX so you can run MS-DOS stuff on (not that you really want
to--but some people just won't switch).  Does anyone know if a more
sensible company is working on a software IBM PC emulator that runs
under the regular Mac system?

Jim Taylor
Microcomputer Support for Curriculum, Brigham Young University
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Straka)
Subject: Re: ESD causes degenerative brain disease in Mac IIs
Date: 10 Nov 87 14:23:10 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail]
(Julian Vrieslander) writes:

WAIT A MINUTE.  HERE WE GO AGAIN!!! Do not, I repeat DO NOT EVER ground
yourself directly to REAL ground, ESPECIALLY with the machine PLUGGED
IN.  This can cause DEATH (and quickly!) if you touch the wrong place in
the machine.

The proper, SAFE way to do it is to connect the ground prong of the
machine with an alligator clip or some such means to ground (but do not
plug the plug into a live outlet).  Then, somehow put ~1MegOhm of
resistance between yourself and ground.  A well designed static wrist
straps has this built in (measure it yourself unless you are sure).  The
1MegOhm is enough to dissipate any static buildup, yet keeps you from
being a high current path to ground if you touch something you
shouldn't.

By the way, I try to avoid working on live electronic equipment when I
can. When I must, I ALWAYS keep one hand in my pocket (usual;ly the left
one). Think about it.  The reason should be obvious.
--
Rich Straka     ihnp4!ihlpf!straka

Advice for the day: "MSDOS - just say no."


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From: [e-mail] (Herb Poppe)
Subject: Lightspeed Modula-2?
Date: 9 Nov 87 22:43:54 GMT
Organization: Natl Ctr Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO

I was sorry to hear that I cannot look forward to a Lightspeed Ada from
THINK.  Considering the similarities between LSP's "units" and
Modula-2's "modules", might I hope that someday I will be using a
Lightspeed Modula-2?
--
Herb Poppe      NCAR                         INTERNET: [e-mail]
[phone]  P.O. Box 3000                   CSNET: [e-mail]
        Boulder, CO  80307               UUCP: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Herb Poppe)
Subject: EtherTalk
Date: 9 Nov 87 22:58:41 GMT
Organization: Natl Ctr Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO

The EtherTalk board from Apple (and 3COM?) is supposed to be shipping
soon.

What software will Apple provide to support this product? Will it work
with AUX, the Mac OS, or both? Will it support TCP/IP? How do I write
applications to take advantage of this product. Will information be
available via APDA?
--
Herb Poppe      NCAR                         INTERNET: [e-mail]
[phone]  P.O. Box 3000                   CSNET: [e-mail]
        Boulder, CO  80307               UUCP: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Herb Poppe)
Subject: MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
Date: 9 Nov 87 23:11:41 GMT
Organization: Natl Ctr Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO

Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from MPW Pascal?
Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from MPW C?

Is it possible to use code compiled in LSC from LSP?
Is it possible to use code compiled in LSP from LSC?

Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from LSC?
Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from LSP?

Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from LSP?
Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from LSC?

I have only used LSP.
--
Herb Poppe      NCAR                         INTERNET: [e-mail]
[phone]  P.O. Box 3000                   CSNET: [e-mail]
        Boulder, CO  80307               UUCP: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Eric H. Romo)
Subject: Idealiner info needed
Date: 11 Nov 87 00:25:21 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network, Fargo, ND

What is the most current version of Idealiner?
Does this one support graphics?
Thanks,
-------
ERIC H. ROMO
<[e-mail]>
CHEMISTRY DEPT. UNIV. OF NORTH DAKOTA
GRAND FORKS, N.D.

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Siegel)
Subject: Re: Lightspeed Modula-2?
Date: 11 Nov 87 17:11:58 GMT
Organization: THINK Technologies, Inc., Bedford, MA

    Possibly, but I can't say for certain; I don't know.

        --Rich

**The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily
represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc).

* Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer    *
* Customer Support  | [e-mail]                *
* Symantec, THINK Technologies Division.  (No snappy quote)         *

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From: [e-mail] (Richard Siegel)
Subject: Re: MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
Date: 11 Nov 87 17:13:49 GMT
Organization: THINK Technologies, Inc., Bedford, MA

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Herb Poppe) writes:
>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from MPW Pascal?
>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from MPW C?

    Yes.

>Is it possible to use code compiled in LSC from LSP?
>Is it possible to use code compiled in LSP from LSC?

    No.

>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from LSC?

    No.

>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from LSP?

    Yes.

>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW C from LSP?

    Yes.

>Is it possible to use code compiled in MPW Pascal from LSC?

    Yes.

>I have only used LSP.

    Yes. :-)

        --Rich

**The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily
represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc).

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Harrow, NCSE BXB1-2/E02 DTN=293-5128)
Subject: Re: Shareware fonts
Date: 11 Nov 87 15:49:53 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Continuing  the   discussion  about  the  BostonII  and  Palencia
shareware high quality fonts, I must ask a question:

On the Mac II, BOTH of these fonts, when some text is UNDERLINed,
overdraw the underline far  to the left of the underlined text on screen
(a distance varying between  a  few  characters  to  a few words!).
This excessive underlining is NOT printed!

What's wrong with these fonts?   Do  they  need some modification for
the new font manager?

Thanks,

Jeff Harrow


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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Harrow, NCSE BXB1-2/E02 DTN=293-5128)
Subject: Multifinder floppy copying/swapping...
Date: 11 Nov 87 15:57:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

I've noticed  that when using the released version of Multifinder to
copy diskettes  on  a  single-floppy  Mac  II,  I have to swap diskettes
several times during  the process.  Given that this Mac II has 2 Meg.
of memory and NO other tasks were launched, why is this necessary, since
all of the  800K  diskette  should fit into the available memory?

Apple, any ideas?

Jeff Harrow

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Harrow, NCSE BXB1-2/E02 DTN=293-5128)
Subject: Re: Mac II screen savers
Date: 11 Nov 87 16:05:13 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Note that  Pyro, as wonderful as it is, does *NOT* work correctly under
Multifinder, although it may appear to do so at first.

It works correctly (blanking the screen after the defined period) when
any application OTHER  than  the  Finder  is  the  foremost application,
but never blanks by itself when Finder is foremost.

I spoke to the author  a  while  ago and he indicated that he was aware
of the problem and knew  why  it  was happening, and that a new version
would probably be available in  a few months.  He did not advise of any
upgrade policy.

Jeff Harrow

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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Harrow, NCSE BXB1-2/E02 DTN=293-5128)
Subject: Memory test for Mac II?
Date: 11 Nov 87 16:07:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

About 6  months  ago someone posted a wonderfully complete memory test
program for the Mac, but it doesn't work on the Mac II.

Does anyone know if it has been upgraded to work correctly on the Mac
II, or the phone number of the author?

Thanks,

Jeff Harrow

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From: [e-mail] (Jordan Mattson)
Subject: Re: MPW C, MPW Pascal, LSP and LSC compatibility
Date: 11 Nov 87 17:47:25 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, USA

Dear Herb -

    It is possible to link object files from the MPW compilers (MPW Pascal
and MPW C) and the MPW assembler together.  In addition, any MPW tool
that uses the MPW object file format (at present the above tools and TML
Modula-2  and Semper Software's Modula-2 compiler, but not Manx's MPW
Aztec C) can output object files that can be linked with other MPW
object files.
    This is one of the strengths of the MPW environment:  the ability to
easily put together multi-language programs.
--


Jordan Mattson                UUCP:   ucbvax!mtxinu!apple!jordan
Apple Computer, Inc.            CSNET:     [e-mail]
Tools & Languages Product Management
20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S
Cupertino, CA 95014
408-973-4601
            "Joy is the serious business of heaven."
                    C.S. Lewis


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: OLD ROM's no longer supported
Date: 11 Nov 87 19:46:14 GMT

I haven't seen this mentioned before, so I thought I'd make sure
everyone saw this. According to the October 30 issue of the Macintosh
Business Letter, Apple sent a note to all developers in October
announcing that the 64K ROM in the 128K and 512K machines will no longer
be supported.

To quote: "Industry sources stated that Apple's market research showed
that there are very few 64K ROM machines still in service, as sales of
upgrade kits indicate that most have been upgraded to at least a 512KE."
[my subnote: the unofficial figure I've seen is that there are < 20,000
old ROM machines in existence, in a user base of well over 1,000,000
machines. That's less than 2%]

Upgrade kits will still be available at Apple dealers -- the upgrade is
not being discontinued. If you haven't upgraded by now, you better if
you have any intention of staying with the main line of Macintoshes.

chuq --- Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach    [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: Clip Art recommendations
Date: 11 Nov 87 19:56:42 GMT

here's something I haven't seen discussed recently. I'm looking for
recommendations on clip-art packages. I'm only interested in laserwriter
quality material. I'm specifically looking for the following kinds of
clip art:

    o art that has to do with books, publishing, and related things

    o art with a Science Fictional, Fantasy, or Horror theme

    o birds and feathered animals, especially parrots.

suggestions on packages? This is an area most magazines don't cover
well.

chuq --- Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach    [e-mail]    Delphi: CHUQ


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From: [e-mail] (Nussbaum)
Subject: Looking for Avatar Corp. and MDPIC software for PICT-to-pic conversion
Date: 11 Nov 87 17:55:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, Illinois

I am looking for any information about MDPIC, from Avatar Corp. of
Pittsburgh, PA., which, according to the October 26 issue of Macintosh
Today, converts between PICT and UNIX pic. Macintosh Today has not been
able to provide any information.

Please respond to me directly by E-mail. I will post the responses if
there is interest.

--
Steve Nussbaum                AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, IL  USA                     ...ihnp4!ihuxv!bronxboy

"This is definately Lower Wacker Drive"...Elwood Blues


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: 2 problems with multifinder
Date: 9 Nov 87 02:07:57 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Math Department

Please respond by email.  Sorry if these have already been discussed.

Hardware configuration: Mac II with a color monitor.  Software is
multifinder; I think the system is 4.2 and the finder is 6.0.  The
setting in the monitors cdev is the highest (16 I think).

(1) Sometimes when the machine is booted the background printing program
comes up first but there isn't anything listed in the queue. Clicking on
its icon in the top right of the screen brings up the finder and
everything seems ok.  Is this something that I should be worried about?

(2) When I use the Kolor cdev or double click on one of the color boxes
for fiddling with the desktop background pattern I get a color wheel
(which I think may be called the "color picker") and I can fiddle around
with the colors.  While fiddling with this color wheel I get the
impression that I can get lots of interesting colors.  When I click on
the OK box the color that I have picked doesn't "take".  With Kolor It
seems to only use the nearest "primary" colors (the center of the color
at the outside of the wheel).  With the background fiddler it switches
to the nearest color of what seems to be some built-in fixed colors.
What makes it strange is that while fiddling with the color wheel I can
get lots of interesting colors in the sample box in the top left.

--------------------------------------
    rusty c. wright
    [e-mail] ucbvax!weyl!rusty


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From: [e-mail] (David Fry)
Subject: Re: 2 problems with multifinder
Date: 12 Nov 87 01:30:32 GMT
Organization: Harvard Math Department

You may have heard that the Mac II can display 16 colors from a palette
of over 16 million.  It is those 16 million colors that you see when you
play with the Color Picker color wheel. But once you choose a color the
color is returned to the program that asked for the color (the Kolor
cdev in this case), and it is up to that program to make sure that
ACTUAL color is available (i.e. one of your 16).  But that may not be
appropriate, and it's not in the case of the Kolor cdev because it would
mess up other programs that needed the color that your chosen color
replaced.

So instead Kolor just gives you the nearest color which is currently
available.  This effect is much less noticeable if you purchased the
video expansion kit because with 256 colors active at once you generally
have at least one that is pretty close to the one you chose.  So save up
those pennies! :-)

David Fry                [e-mail] Department of
Mathematics        [e-mail] Harvard
University            ...!harvard!huma1!fry Cambridge, MA  02138


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From: [e-mail]
Subject: Re: Any experience with screen projecto
Date: 11 Nov 87 17:46:00 GMT

Ken Ewing ([e-mail]) asked about experience with an overhead
projector called MacNifier, sold by Comtrex.  I just wanted to express
my interest in the answers.  I am currently using a LimeLighter to
project a Mac+, and it is quite inadequate:  too dim, with poor focus.

My department owns a Sharp QA-25, which like the Comtrex MacNifier, is
an LCD display suitable to place on an overhead projector.  Our problem
is that no one knows how to interface it to a MacIntosh.  Anyone out
there know how to accomplish this?

               H. George Friedman, Jr.
               Department of Computer Science
               University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
               1304 West Springfield Avenue
               Urbana, Illinois  61801

               USENET:    ...!{pur-ee,ihnp4,convex}!uiucdcs!friedman
               CSNET:    [e-mail]
               ARPA:    [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Eric Cloninger)
Subject: GCC Personal Laser Printer?
Date: 11 Nov 87 18:25:53 GMT
Organization: Oklahoma State Univ., Stillwater

Reader,

This is my first posting to comp.sys.mac.  Please forgive me if this is
a reposting of a discussion four months ago.  I have only been reading
comp.sys.mac for two months.  Some of the info in this article may be
erroneous or even completely false.  It is correct to the best of my
knowledge.

****************************************************************************

I worked for a medium sized (20 people) computer store this summer.  Due
to  the bad Oklahoma economy and other excuses, we were not able to
evaluate many  of the new products this year as we could in previous
years.

I am interested in a laser printer for personal use that came out this
summer.   It is made by General Computer Corp (makers of Hyperdrive and
several classic  video games).  Since I am working on my M.S. and my
roommate is working on his  Ph.D, we think we could (collectively)
justify the cost of a $2600 (list price)  laser printer.

>From the small article I read in one of our trade journals, the Personal Laser
Printer (PLP) uses Quickdraw rather than Postscript and has many (or
most) of the Laserwriter Plus fonts.

Two questions:

1) Is it worth a damn?

2) How much are they selling for across the country.  I hope I can pick
one up
   for approx. $1800 - $1900.

A little background:  I currently own a Mac SE with 20 mb hard disk
running System 4.1 and Finder 5.5.  I have an Imagewriter II and an
Apple 300/1200 baud modem.

Any information provided would be helpful.  E-mail responses to me and I
will post a follow-up.  Many thanks.


Eric Cloninger
=========================================================================
=========================================================================

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From: [e-mail] (Power Crazy 386 Owner)
Subject: Mac programs that run under A/UX
Date: 13 Nov 87 05:15:22 GMT
Organization: An As Yet Unnamed Public System

Considering the number of sites that have been seeded and the ease of
which Mac programs can be converted to run under A/UX, it would be
interesting to find out which and how many Mac programs run or run
conditionally under A/UX.

Please send results of any of your test runs to me and I will summarize
to the net, as long as the results keep coming I'll post updates.

I am also interested in what people think of running Mac programs under
A/UX as opposed to under the Mac OS.  Since I can see this as a somewhat
controversial subject, PLEASE send me your ideas BEFORE you post so I
can then summarize ALL sides before the flame wars begin.  I'll write my
views both before and after seeing the summary and ideas.

Ken MacLeod
ut-sally!utah-cs!uplherc!sp7040!jose!ken
Day:  [phone]
Evening: (Usually not home, leave message)  [phone]
BBS:  [phone], mail to ken,  300/1200/2400/19200 (trailblazer)

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From: [e-mail] (Wayne Pollock)
Subject: Re: FullWrite Update
Date: 18 Nov 87 06:24:45 GMT
Organization: APR, Columbus, OH

It just so happens that I know the brother of (one of) the developer(s)
of Fullwrite.  I know that the delay was caused to make a bullet-proof
product; and when the ROM changed, this screwed up the projected
delivery date.

Well, it seems this developer had made a promise: He swore if FullWrite
wasn't finished by November 15, he would have himself publicly tarred
and feathered. True to his word, a photo of this memorable event will be
published soon, I think in Macizine.  Watch for it!

When Fullwrite does show up, it should be really great.

Wayne "you heard it hear first" Pollock,
GEnie: W.POLLOCK    (I loose Netnews access today! *sob*)

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From: [e-mail] (Miles Asher Weissman)
Subject: Cray - Finder
Date: 18 Nov 87 19:13:44 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


    A friend of mine has access to a Cray for five minutes a week (Don't
ask how, it's a long story).    The Cray belongs to Westinghouse (XMP/4
I think).  I am interested in the product that Apple created for their
Cray XMP, which I believe was call the CRAY FINDER.

    Does anyone have information about it, how it interfaces to a Cray (We
plan to hook up to it through ARPA Net).

        THANKS

            - Miles Weissman
            [e-mail]

"PS/2: yesterday's hardware today;
    OS/2 today's software tomorrow"
        - A person who noticed

----------------------------------------------------------
Carnegie-Mellon University -> Computer Engineering 412 - 268 - 4287 5115
Margaret Morrison Street Box 712 Pittsburgh, PA  15213


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From: [e-mail] (Doug Mackensie)
Subject: Xpress bombs with new system!
Date: 18 Nov 87 22:31:13 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

Well, I got the new system the other day and was anxious to try it.   So
I prepared a disk for it and fired it up.  I brought up Quark Xpress,
opened a document and sent it to the printer...  I got a series of
PostScript errors.  A call to Quark revealed, yes there are problems
with the new system release... wait for version 1.1 of Xpress, due  Dec.
1. Till then I'd advise not updating your hard disk, particularly  with
MultiFinder.

[ I just made a separate boot disk with the old System/Finder and a copy of
  XPress on another disk.  I'm not not going to update my disk just because
  XPress doesn't run - Jeff ]

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From: [e-mail] (Glynda Jones)
Subject: PhoneNET Users--I need your input!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 87 20:11:01 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Our department recently installed AppleTalk Cabling, thinking we would
never exceed the 1000 ft. limit for cable length.  Well-you guessed it-
after going around heating ducts and out into hallways looking for
right-of-ways, we put in WAY OVER 1000 ft.  Not only is performance down
at the ends of the daisy-chain, but everything else in the middle is
mired down too.   We use FastPath (kinetics) to talk to other apple
nets, but can not see all of them at this time (same goes for
LaserWriters & ImageWriters on all nets).  I read in the 9/8 issue of
MacWEEK that PhoneNet can be added onto existing AppleTalk, length
restrictions go away,  and everything will work just fine.  What I need
to know is How do we do it and How Much will it cost us. We are going to
add maybe ten more devices, and need to have this problem whipped before
the new stuff comes. This is turning into a real headache, and I would
appreciate any and all suggestions using Farallon or non-Farallon items.
 Mail directly to me, or post your reply if you think it would be useful
info for all would-be network administrators.

Thanks In Advance
Glynda Jones (I don't think we can line item that)Davis

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